{"id":9536,"date":"2023-06-15T15:56:10","date_gmt":"2023-06-15T13:56:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/indeks.mk\/?p=9536"},"modified":"2023-06-15T15:56:42","modified_gmt":"2023-06-15T13:56:42","slug":"artan-grubi-nga-forumi-i-prespes-ndryshimi-ne-ballkan-fillon-kur-e-shohim-kutine-e-votimit-si-llogarine-tone-te-kursimeve-dhe-jo-si-nje-bankomat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/indeks.bilten.mk\/?p=9536","title":{"rendered":"Artan Grubi nga &#8220;Forumi i Presp\u00ebs&#8221;: Ndryshimi n\u00eb Ballkan fillon kur e shohim kutin\u00eb e votimit si llogarin\u00eb ton\u00eb t\u00eb kursimeve dhe jo si nj\u00eb bankomat!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Pajtimi \u00ebsht\u00eb rivendosja e marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnieve miq\u00ebsore apo veprimi i b\u00ebrjes s\u00eb nj\u00eb bindjeje ose pik\u00ebpamje t\u00eb p\u00ebrputhshme me nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr. Pra, mendoj se ishim miq, pastaj u grind\u00ebm, dhe tani po rikthehemi n\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebniet miq\u00ebsore&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>K\u00ebshtu tha n\u00eb fjal\u00ebn e tij, z\u00ebvend\u00ebskryeministri i par\u00eb i Qeveris\u00eb dhe ministri p\u00ebr sistem politik dhe marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie mes bashk\u00ebsive, Artan Grubi n\u00eb panelin me tem\u00eb: &#8220;Pajtimi dhe demokracia si katalizator i ndryshimit n\u00eb Ballkan&#8221; q\u00eb u mbajt t\u00eb enjten n\u00eb Strug\u00eb n\u00eb suaza t\u00eb edicionit t\u00eb tret\u00eb t\u00eb Forumit t\u00eb Presp\u00ebs p\u00ebr dialog me titull \u201cFamilje e zgjeruar evropiane deri n\u00eb vitin 2030: nj\u00eb mision (i pa)i mundur?\u201d, organizuar nga Ministria e Pun\u00ebve t\u00eb Jashtme, nd\u00ebrsa n\u00ebn patronazhin e kryeministrit Dimitar Kova\u00e7evski, raporton Indeks.mk<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Nuk mund t\u00eb kujtoj shum\u00eb nga kjo n\u00eb Evrop\u00ebn Juglindore, pa marr\u00eb parasysh se sa thell\u00eb dhe larg n\u00eb histori t\u00eb shkojm\u00eb. A ishin shqiptar\u00ebt miq me maqedonasit, serb\u00ebt, malazez\u00ebt, grek\u00ebt? A ishin maqedonasit miq me bullgar\u00ebt, grek\u00ebt, serb\u00ebt?? A pat\u00ebn serb\u00ebt ndonj\u00eb mik tjet\u00ebr p\u00ebrve\u00e7 rus\u00ebve? Gjith\u00eb jet\u00ebn time e kam kaluar n\u00eb konflikt. Q\u00eb kur m\u00ebsova p\u00ebr veten time, ka pasur probleme dhe asnj\u00ebher\u00eb nuk ka pasur moment t\u00eb m\u00ebrzitsh\u00ebm n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rajon. Tito vdiq, ndarja e Jugosllavis\u00eb nisi dhe vazhdoi p\u00ebr rreth 20 vjet me luft\u00ebra n\u00eb Slloveni, Kroaci, Bosnje, Kosov\u00eb, Maqedoni. Si pagesat e kredis\u00eb s\u00eb sht\u00ebpis\u00eb, t\u00eb pafundme dhe t\u00eb dhimbshme. \u00c7\u00ebshtjet e hapura midis t\u00eb gjitha vendeve tona mbeten si nj\u00eb plag\u00eb e pash\u00ebrueshme dhe burim d\u00ebshp\u00ebrimi, por gjithashtu nj\u00eb burim i mund\u00ebsive p\u00ebr manipulim politik dhe mbajtje t\u00eb fuqis\u00eb&#8221;, tha z\u00ebvend\u00ebskryeministri Grubi.<\/p>\n<p>Ai potencoi se, instalimi i frik\u00ebs dhe p\u00ebrpjekja p\u00ebr t\u00eb krijuar armiq ka treguar se \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb shum\u00eb frytshme p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbajtur fuqin\u00eb dhe n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbajtur status quo pa asnj\u00eb progres.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Ne jemi rritur me frik\u00ebn se shqiptar\u00ebt do ta \u00e7ojn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb vend diku tjet\u00ebr, derisa u detyruam t\u00eb ishim t\u00eb guximsh\u00ebm dhe t\u00eb merrnim vendime p\u00ebr t\u00eb mposhtur frik\u00ebn ton\u00eb. P\u00ebrfunduam luft\u00ebn me nj\u00eb marr\u00ebveshje paqeje q\u00eb n\u00eb fund t\u00eb fundit e b\u00ebri vendin t\u00eb hapur ndaj t\u00eb gjith\u00eb qytetar\u00ebve t\u00eb tij, e cila rezultoi me besnik\u00ebrin\u00eb e qytetar\u00ebve ndaj shtetit. Ne jemi rritur me frik\u00ebn se grek\u00ebt do t\u00eb na marrin historin\u00eb dhe kjo do t\u00eb ishte Armagedoni. Tani jetojm\u00eb me frik\u00ebn se bullgar\u00ebt do t\u00eb na asimilojn\u00eb n\u00eb shekullin e 21-t, pas 21 shekujve t\u00eb d\u00ebshtimeve p\u00ebr ta b\u00ebr\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb. Opozita jon\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb master n\u00eb p\u00ebrmbledhjen e t\u00eb gjitha frik\u00ebve p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrfituar nga agjenda e tyre e marrjes s\u00eb fuqis\u00eb. Nuk e dua m\u00eb gjendjen e nj\u00eb shteti t\u00eb kapur!&#8221;, n\u00ebnvizoi Grubi.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-21728\" src=\"https:\/\/pressonline.al\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/ArtanGrubiPFD-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1229\" height=\"692\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Asnj\u00ebri prej nesh, tha m\u00eb tej ai, nuk humbi asgj\u00eb nga marr\u00ebveshjet e Ohrit, Presp\u00ebs dhe marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnieve t\u00eb mira fqinj\u00ebsore.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Shteti, rajoni dhe t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ne fituam pothuajse t\u00eb gjitha, hapi shtes\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i nevojsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr p\u00ebrfundim. Askush nuk mund t\u00eb kontestoj\u00eb ekzistenc\u00ebn e gjuh\u00ebs maqedonase, popullit maqedonas dhe ekzistenc\u00ebn e shtetit ton\u00eb. Nuk do t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb dita e gjykimit, bota nuk do t\u00eb pushoj\u00eb t\u00eb ekzistoj\u00eb dit\u00ebn pasi t\u00eb marrim vendimet e nevojshme. Nuk dua t\u00eb ting\u00eblloj i paqart\u00eb dhe t\u00eb krijoj nj\u00eb kuti tjet\u00ebr me fjalimin &#8220;duhet t\u00eb&#8230;&#8221;. Vij p\u00ebrpara jush me nj\u00eb fjalim &#8220;ne e b\u00ebm\u00eb&#8221;. Kujdes me at\u00eb q\u00eb d\u00ebshiron, mund t\u00eb b\u00ebhet realitet. Ne pranuam t\u00eb gjitha d\u00ebshirat dhe kushtet paraprake t\u00eb VMRO-s\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb votuar p\u00ebr ndryshimet kushtetuese. Shkuam disa hapa p\u00ebrpara, p\u00ebrve\u00e7 gatishm\u00ebris\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb l\u00ebn\u00eb qeverin\u00eb, ofruam dor\u00ebheqjet tona, hoq\u00ebm t\u00eb gjitha kushtet e tjera dhe tani, sot, po themi se k\u00ebrkojm\u00eb heqjen e qeveris\u00eb teknike t\u00eb P\u00ebrzhin\u00ebs nga ligji mbi qeverin\u00eb&#8221;, u shpreh ai.<\/p>\n<p>Grubi n\u00eb fjal\u00ebn e tij, u ndal edhe n\u00eb aktualitetin politik n\u00eb vend. Sipas tij, problemi i opozit\u00ebs maqedonase nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb me futjen e komunitetit bullgar n\u00eb Kushtetut\u00eb, por ka t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb me kalkulime p\u00ebr zgjedhje t\u00eb parakohshme parlamentare.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Pam\u00eb, d\u00ebgjuam, lexuam se VMRO nuk ka problem me ndryshimin kushtetues, nuk ka problem me p\u00ebrfshirjen e bullgar\u00ebve n\u00eb kushtetut\u00eb, q\u00eb nuk k\u00ebrkon zgjedhje t\u00eb hershme, q\u00eb nuk merr parasysh deklaratat e tyre t\u00eb n\u00ebnshkruara noteriale, por gjith\u00e7ka q\u00eb d\u00ebshirojn\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebt dhe BDI t\u00eb largohen nga Qeveria! \u00cbsht\u00eb koha t\u00eb realizojm\u00eb at\u00eb q\u00eb e kemi premtuar! Prandaj, nuk jam i bindur se pajtimi n\u00eb kuptimin e fjalorit \u00ebsht\u00eb zgjidhja, \u00e7far\u00eb na duhet v\u00ebrtet \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb \u201cristartim\u201d i gjenerat\u00ebs dhe t\u00eb themi mjaft \u00ebsht\u00eb mjaft, nuk na duhet nj\u00eb pajtim pasi nuk e kemi arritur at\u00eb me shekuj, por na duhet nj\u00eb gjenerat\u00eb dhe lider\u00eb, q\u00eb vendosin thjesht t\u00eb shkojn\u00eb p\u00ebrpara, t\u00eb ecin p\u00ebrpara, t\u00eb p\u00ebrqafojn\u00eb vlerat per\u00ebndimore, ta b\u00ebjn\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb para se t\u00eb largohemi t\u00eb gjith\u00eb nga ky vend, dhe t\u00eb z\u00ebvend\u00ebsohemi nga dikush tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb ende duhet t\u00eb pajtohet n\u00eb ciklin e pafund. P\u00ebr ta p\u00ebrfunduar, ndryshimi n\u00eb Ballkan fillon kur e shohim kutin\u00eb e votimit si llogarin\u00eb ton\u00eb t\u00eb kursimeve dhe jo si nj\u00eb bankomat&#8221;, potencoi z\u00ebvend\u00ebskryeministri i par\u00eb dhe ministri p\u00ebr sistem politik dhe marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie mes bashk\u00ebsive, Artan Grubi.<em> (Indeks.mk)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Pajtimi \u00ebsht\u00eb rivendosja e marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnieve miq\u00ebsore apo veprimi i b\u00ebrjes s\u00eb nj\u00eb bindjeje ose pik\u00ebpamje t\u00eb p\u00ebrputhshme me nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr. 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